Tag: gotham

lankybrunettepartdeux:

This is the first time that Lucius and Ed interact or are even really made aware of each other, and I find Lucius’ quick response and way of responding to Ed’s riddle really interesting and sort of telling for what happens with them in season 3.

Ed’s way of answering questions is often another riddle and so far everyone that he’s encountered have either found it baffling/annoying (Gordon, Alfred, Oswald) or extremely irritating (Bullock).

Then we have Lucius. Who not only immediately grasps what Ed is trying to relate, but simply takes it as it is, without annoyance or irritation. Sort of “Oh, this is how this guy communicates. I understand and accept this, and I know the answer can will reply.”

And Ed’s reaction is understandable surprise, it’s plain on his face. I genuinely think that Lucius is the first to just accept Ed’s little quirk of riddles and answer him genuinely.**

Later on in “How the Riddler Got His Name” it REALLY makes sense about how Lucius deals with Ed and the way he does things. He’s had this moment before, this moment of understanding that there’s a brilliant but quirky brain inside Ed Nygma, and he sympathizes.

So yeah, I really think that Lucius Fox was the first person to ever “get and accept” Edward Nygma and how he functioned, without any judgement.

**Kristen got there eventually, and I’m not throwing her progress with Ed under the bus, but at first, her reaction was not accepting (and also Ed was pestering her lots of not so great ways)

I got these kids who came up to me, I did this STEM project thing, and these little scientists are coming up and they’re like “Oh my gosh I know how Lucius made that” and I’m like “Do tell, because I don’t!” And so it’s like this accidental activism of just being a brown person on television who’s the smartest person in the room, who doesn’t fight anybody, who is kind, and the most empathetic character on the show, is this awesome little thing that I didn’t know was going to be the gem of this gig.

Chris Chalk on what it’s been like to play Lucius Fox – YouTube
(via justgotham)
Source: justgotham

Gotham would have been better off to get cancelled at the same time as Lucifer. Disney now owns Fox, which is on a mad campaign to convince the world that Gotham is over and done forever. Coincidence? A show with Batman is a threat to Disney. Disney knew when they bought Fox, they were going to war with Netflix, and they don’t want Netflix to pick up Gotham.

thankyougotham:

thankyougotham:

  • I agree with you that getting canceled at the same time as Lucifer would have been better for Gotham. If that had happened, Gotham fans would have gotten active and worked together-we’ve done it before. 
  • When it was announced that Gotham was “renewed” for a half season, and that it would be the last “season” on Fox, many fans gave up and decided that was the best we were going to get. 
  • Fox’s relentless publicity campaign to convince viewers that this is the absolute end for Gotham has worked. It’s propaganda, but many viewers accept it without asking “why”?
  • There’s a lot of misinformation going around. Fox does not own Gotham, Warner Brothers does, just like Warner Brothers owns Lucifer. Fox has nothing to say about what may or may not happen with Gotham in the future. 
  • It’s still surprising how many fans don’t know Gotham was written to span 7 seasons. It was written as a complete story, that would take 7 seasons to tell. Cutting it off after 4 and a half seasons means cutting out 2 and a half seasons worth of plot. Look at it this way: Game of Thrones was written to span 8 seasons, and they’re about to have season 8 to finish their story. Imagine Game of Thrones with 2 and a half seasons missing! It wouldn’t make much sense. 
  • I agree- Disney did know they were planning to pull their Marvel shows from Netflix. A Batman show on Netflix would be Disney’s worst nightmare. Disney has an investment in wanting Gotham to end, and never be heard from again. 
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Someone made this comment, and I’d like to address it to counter some of the misinformation that’s been spread about Gotham (and Lucifer, in this case.)

“I disagree. The plan was to write seven seasons, but it didnt happen that way. The ratings sucked. Fox kept fucking with the shows airtime, people dropped the show after certain people died, or their ship wasn’t canon. I think we’re lucky to get a conclusion that is being written and directed by the cast themselves. The cast is happy with this end. Lucifer’s cast pushed for renewal because the show ended at the climax. They only got a 4 episode extension. We get 12.”

  • Lucifer’s cast wanted their series to be renewed, certainly; the Lucifer fans all came out in force, and fans have more power now than ever before. But if you take the time to read the rest of the comments, Netflix had a good reason to start their expansion into DC properties because Disney is pulling the Marvel shows.
  • Tom Ellis asked that fans help find Lucifer a new home after they were canceled on Fox. He was free to do that because there was nothing to gain by being “nice” to Fox anymore. Did you really expect the Gotham cast to make a public show of asking for fans’ help while they’re still employed by Fox? Try talking to people who’ve talked to the cast at conventions.
  • No, Lucifer didn’t just get a four episode extension, Lucifer is getting an entire season on Netflix. If that goes well, they’ll have a future on Netflix.Lucifer also has the advantage that no one is spreading propaganda about how, when that season is finished, Lucifer is over forever.
  • Lucifer’s Nielsen ratings were only a little better than Gotham’s, and Brooklyn 99′s ratings were worse than Gotham’s. Yet both of those shows have been picked up by other networks.
  • The Nielsen ratings are under fire for being antiquated and inaccurate, which is why they’re no longer the only factor in what happens to a show. Netflix refuses to use Nielsen ratings at all, because they don’t reflect the international audience that accounts for most of Netflix’s revenue.
  • Yes, Bruno Heller did actually map out seven seasons. John Stephens, in recent interviews, talked about how difficult it’s been to cut all that material out and try to come up with a reasonable “conclusion”.
  • If you have access to Twitter and Instagram, you’ll see that saying “the cast is happy with this end” is simply not true. They’re proud of the work they’ve done on this last half season, but they’ve also repeatedly stated that they’re heartbroken over the show ending like this. One example: Robin has repeatedly stated how sad he is, and how he wishes fans would get active and ask for a Penguin spin-off so he can continue to play the role of Oswald.
  •  Fox stated there would be ten episodes in Gotham season 5. After the fans started protesting this, Fox relented and added two more episodes, and the current head producer and writer thanked fans for their part in making this happen. Please don’t diminish what hard-working fans have accomplished.

In conclusion, thank you for this opportunity to address some of these incorrect rumors. If you, personally, are happy with losing two and a half seasons- that’s your opinion and I can’t argue with that. 

burglemyturts:

Gotham does two important things very, very well

  1. It portrays Bruce and his life after his parents’ deaths in a way that makes you go “Ah yes, this would be the type of child to grow up fighting crime while dressed as a bat”
  2. It portrays Gotham and its citizens in a way that makes you go “Of course, this city can only be cleansed by a man fighting crime while dressed as a bat”